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Thursday
11Jan2007

Irreducible Minimum

"Church is a group of people who love God and love each other".

I've been trying to get my hands on that definition for about two years now. Was in a meeting with a group of church planters and strivers last night (rebels and heretics sharing coffee and pie) and someone came up with that statement. It still blows me away.

Love God. Love each other - everything else is culture.

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Great statement, worth waiting two years for.


I like your new look!!!!
January 12, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBarbara
Don't you just love it when Square Space adds new templates!
January 12, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterShane Yancey
great minimum. Do you know where it was said / written first?

BTW the black text on dark grey background is nearly impossible to read :( at least by this aging lady!
January 12, 2007 | Unregistered Commenterlorna
Love God. Love each other - everything else is culture.

That's good. But I would add 4 more words: "or love of self."

And that last one is hard, because many times we couch our love of self by portraying it as love of God or love of others. And yet if we're ever going to get down to brass tacks on anything, we have to constantly distinguish whether something is really love for God and love for others, or whether its just my own selfish desires dressed up in the fine garb of religion.

To me, that's the real question which your summary exposes - how to distinguish between living faith and dead religiousity.

Nice site. Thanks for sharing.
January 12, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterChristian Cryder
Love God, love others...

Works for me!
January 12, 2007 | Unregistered Commentergrace
Great new look. Great Quote.
January 12, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Lunt
Barbara - Thanks!

Shane - Yup, I do! I'm totally aitch tee em ell clueless, so templates are all I can do. You've got some spiffy new digs too ;)

Lorna - I believe it was first said by the lady at the end of the couch. It shouldn't be a dark gray background - not sure what that's about...

Christian - Nice to have you with us. Unfortunately, it seems like self-indulgence is pretty much the nature of our culture.

grace - works for me too

John Lunt - Yup - I like 'em both too!

January 12, 2007 | Registered Commenter[rhymes with kerouac]
The irreducible minimum statement "Church is a group of people who love God and love each other" finds it's bases in the original irreducible commandments of "Love the Lord with all your heart, soul...and love your neighbor as yourself." As far as loving yourself, I believe it is a built in assumption in what Jesus said. "Love your neighbor as yourself" could be understood to mean "Love your neighbor in the measure that you already love yourself."
January 13, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBrian Buriff
Brian - Or it could just mean, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
January 13, 2007 | Registered Commenter[rhymes with kerouac]
I agree - that's probably the most accurate definition of "church" one could find.

Tragically, the sneaky twister-of-words that lives in my head would nod cynically and say, "Yeah - that's just what I've seen, most times. They love God, and love the other people in their church - the people who are just like them. Not much love for the folks outside the 'in crowd,' or outside the walls..."

By the same token, the optimistic, hopeful voice in my head hears "love each other" as "loving others, not just 'each other.'" Because I know people in otherwise-traditional churches who express love for folks who are "them" or "not-us," and do a good job of it. Heck, there's a bunch of 'em who are side-by-side with you, brother, day in and day out...

The part I love about this definition is that it doesn't measure anything theological or dogmatic, but simply holds up the shortest measuring stick: is there love for God, and love for others? Simple as that.
January 16, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterSteve F.

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